Gulf Oil Spill

[beetlespin]

I don't personally think the govt is to blame for this oil spill. It is purely BP's fault. Hopefully this will lead to greater conservation efforts in energy. I'm speaking mainly of efficiency improvements in the near term since most green energy types aren't commercially viable yet. I am not generally a supporter of the democratic party but I am impressed by Obama's executive orders to raise CAFE standards significantly as well as commercial vehicle fuel efficiency requirements.

 

[Guest]

LMAO! 250,000 gpd wow......yea drill baby drill! Sarah palin must have been "slammed" on her head.

 

[Possum]

Even with this spill, there is still better fishing down there than whats on Chickamauga. The grass kill here was much worse. Just kidding, but something to think about.

 

[outcaster]

jack84 - 5/27/2010 10:20 PM

LMAO! 250,000 gpd wow......yea drill baby drill! Sarah palin must have been "slammed" on her head.

Don't laugh too hard..... this same bunch want's to take back Congress this fall and the White House in 2012.

 

[TritonAL186]

outcaster - 5/27/2010 8:40 PM

jack84 - 5/27/2010 10:20 PM

LMAO! 250,000 gpd wow......yea drill baby drill! Sarah palin must have been "slammed" on her head.

Don't laugh too hard..... this same bunch want's to take back Congress this fall and the White House in 2012.[/QUOTE

and you know what, they probably will if this administration keeps spending more of our money and not listening to the peoples demand, either way we are doomed because either administration could careless about the people. They never have or never will in my opinion. Sorry for the rant, but I lost all hope for us in the future . This Country will be a mess for along time . I am starting to think that maybe Congress is right, we are stupid, the same reason we keep electing stupid people into office each time, but then again we don't have much choice, do we.

You know what, most people want to stop drilling for oil because of the Gulf Disaster and I understand ,but lets also stop using the water, stop cutting down trees, cut the electricity in your homes for hours in a day and stop flying in planes, it's just not going to happen. So face reality, we are going to drill for oil, use the water, cut down trees, fly airplanes, use as much electricity as we want and everything else we have been using for years to come.

Just be glad or happy that you can still enjoy a day on the water with your friends and family on your fast bass boat, until gas prices hit a high of $5.00 to 7.00 a gallon or more because of Obama's decision today. Then you'll be saying " Drill Baby Drill...but it will be to late then...... and no , I'm neither a Rep. nor a Dem, I'm a realistic person.... emoLaugh

 

[JSV]

outcaster - 5/27/2010 10:40 AM

jack84 - 5/27/2010 10:20 PM LMAO! 250,000 gpd wow......yea drill baby drill! Sarah palin must have been "slammed" on her head.

Don't laugh too hard..... this same bunch want's to take back Congress this fall and the White House in 2012.

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<span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana">Define those folks!!!!emoScratchIt appears that about 98%+ on every hunting or fishing site I visit, support a conservative approach over this socialist agenda! </span></p><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana">Bi-patiisian (what a joke)!!!!

</p></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana">DICKtator maybe!!!

</p></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana">Take a look around! The American people want to take it back!!!! The Lord willing and THE Creeks don't rise, the people will take it back from this socialist AGENDA!!!

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<span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana">If it means "Drill Baby Drill" then so be it!</span></p><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana">The situation with the oil is in itself devastation but we will recover!

</p></span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana">What we won’t recover from is .....If.... we let N. Korea get nukes or we don't support Israel (#1 Israel) and this administration is turning a deaf ear toward the chosen people!

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[Eyeman2]

The difference between Gulf of Mexico & Alaska; 4750 feet..The average depth of the Alaskan slope is 180 feet deep, where they want to drill baby drill.
Obama Bunch is blaming it on Ronald Reagan for letting them drill in Gulf.
Glad Obama reacted SO quickly...now nobody can drill anywhere. another excuse.
King Tut vs Obama...boy kings

 

[outcaster]

TritonAL186 - 5/28/2010 12:44 AM

outcaster - 5/27/2010 8:40 PM

jack84 - 5/27/2010 10:20 PM

LMAO! 250,000 gpd wow......yea drill baby drill! Sarah palin must have been "slammed" on her head.

Don't laugh too hard..... this same bunch want's to take back Congress this fall and the White House in 2012.[/QUOTE

and you know what, they probably will if this administration keeps spending more of our money and not listening to the peoples demand, either way we are doomed because either administration could careless about the people. They never have or never will in my opinion. Sorry for the rant, but I lost all hope for us in the future . This Country will be a mess for along time . I am starting to think that maybe Congress is right, we are stupid, the same reason we keep electing stupid people into office each time, but then again we don't have much choice, do we.

You know what, most people want to stop drilling for oil because of the Gulf Disaster and I understand ,but lets also stop using the water, stop cutting down trees, cut the electricity in your homes for hours in a day and stop flying in planes, it's just not going to happen. So face reality, we are going to drill for oil, use the water, cut down trees, fly airplanes, use as much electricity as we want and everything else we have been using for years to come.

Just be glad or happy that you can still enjoy a day on the water with your friends and family on your fast bass boat, until gas prices hit a high of $5.00 to 7.00 a gallon or more because of Obama's decision today. Then you'll be saying " Drill Baby Drill...but it will be to late then...... and no , I'm neither a Rep. nor a Dem, I'm a realistic person.... emoLaugh

Your're right most people are stupid. You say you are realistic.... I say you have a dim world view, and pray that no one with views like yours ever gets to be in charge of anything that matters.

 

[Bprice]

beetlespin - 5/27/2010 9:08 PM I don't personally think the govt is to blame for this oil spill. It is purely BP's fault. Hopefully this will lead to greater conservation efforts in energy. I'm speaking mainly of efficiency improvements in the near term since most green energy types aren't commercially viable yet. I am not generally a supporter of the democratic party but I am impressed by Obama's executive orders to raise CAFE standards significantly as well as commercial vehicle fuel efficiency requirements.

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Don't complain when consumer goods go up 15-20% due to this EXO</p>

 

[beetlespin]

how

 

[Possum]

Am I getting this right. So, the same folks on here screaming less government, less regulation, are now on here a month later singing a different tune. Funny how people don't want government until it is convienent to them.

 

[Bprice]

beetlespin - 5/28/2010 9:00 AMhow

Who is going to pay for the initial increase in vehicle cost, and complete vehicle replacement? Companies aren't going to eat it, they will push it down to the consumers. Now, granted once that initial investment is made they will see fuel consumption drop, which in turn should level out the pricing, but as you've said before, once they have conditioned the purchasing public to the cost increase (fuel costs now, we get giddy when we see $2.50 gas) they will not drop to the original cost. Maybe thats just the way I see it.

 

[Bprice]

Possum - 5/28/2010 9:55 AM Am I getting this right. So, the same folks on here screaming less government, less regulation, are now on here a month later singing a different tune. Funny how people don't want government until it is convienent to them.

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Captain Twist is at it again! I think folks are asking for the government in place to DO THEIR JOB. Not asking for more government.</p>

 

[Eyeman2]

Not more government, just more inspections of the regs the government has already put forth. Like the Border, inforce what you have put on paper. That's all.
Palin was talking about drilling in AK. where the ocean floor is only 150 feet deep. As usual the Dems want to put a spin on the words.
Wild guess: you're a union member Possum, maybe?
Look at Greece, MORE GOVERNMENT caused the country to collapse. More $$ going out than coming in...ponzi scheme/unions.
It's hard to justify a paycheck with outragous perks when you produce no product.
When gas is $5 per gallon, then it's too late to drill. One new refinery has/is being built in the last 20 years in the US, consumption has increased 100% in 20 years.
When the bubble burst the unions just let the governemnt take over all the retiries benfits, which is paid for by tax payers,,,we get ripped before , during and after the fact. Sooner or later the country will fail, and that is what the Progressive/Democrats want. Look it up, it started in 1915.

 

[Bfish]

Bprice - 5/28/2010 11:05 AM

Who is going to pay for the initial increase in vehicle cost, and complete vehicle replacement? Companies aren't going to eat it, they will push it down to the consumers. Now, granted once that initial investment is made they will see fuel consumption drop, which in turn should level out the pricing, but as you've said before, once they have conditioned the purchasing public to the cost increase (fuel costs now, we get giddy when we see $2.50 gas) they will not drop to the original cost. Maybe thats just the way I see it.

hmm not really.

If the companies had been paying attention, fuel cost are rising. Profit margins are higher on fuel efficient vehicles largely due to demand. By requiring new CAFE standards, all this does is move the target date for release sooner. Sure there is more R and D cost, and sure the price of the vehicle will increase but the profit margin will too, so no net loss. Fuel prices will not go down, population is rising and global demand is increasing and will override any efficiencies gained.

It doesn't help that Chavez's of the world, no longer sale to the US. Reason is simple, their are plenty of buyers elsewhere in the global market, they no longer need US buying power.

Peak Oil could very well be here and society changes will be coming.

 

[Bfish]

2x post emoBang

 

[TritonAL186]

outcaster - 5/28/2010 6:33 AM

TritonAL186 - 5/28/2010 12:44 AM

outcaster - 5/27/2010 8:40 PM

jack84 - 5/27/2010 10:20 PM

LMAO! 250,000 gpd wow......yea drill baby drill! Sarah palin must have been "slammed" on her head.

Don't laugh too hard..... this same bunch want's to take back Congress this fall and the White House in 2012.[/QUOTE

and you know what, they probably will if this administration keeps spending more of our money and not listening to the peoples demand, either way we are doomed because either administration could careless about the people. They never have or never will in my opinion. Sorry for the rant, but I lost all hope for us in the future . This Country will be a mess for along time . I am starting to think that maybe Congress is right, we are stupid, the same reason we keep electing stupid people into office each time, but then again we don't have much choice, do we.

You know what, most people want to stop drilling for oil because of the Gulf Disaster and I understand ,but lets also stop using the water, stop cutting down trees, cut the electricity in your homes for hours in a day and stop flying in planes, it's just not going to happen. So face reality, we are going to drill for oil, use the water, cut down trees, fly airplanes, use as much electricity as we want and everything else we have been using for years to come.

Just be glad or happy that you can still enjoy a day on the water with your friends and family on your fast bass boat, until gas prices hit a high of $5.00 to 7.00 a gallon or more because of Obama's decision today. Then you'll be saying " Drill Baby Drill...but it will be to late then...... and no , I'm neither a Rep. nor a Dem, I'm a realistic person.... emoLaugh

Your're right most people are stupid. You say you are realistic.... I say you have a dim world view, and pray that no one with views like yours ever gets to be in charge of anything that matters.

Outcaster, so did I get your attention. See that is what's wrong with people today, they believe everything other people say without really knowing that person. That's not really my views , I was just messing around, just to see what some of you guys would reply back. I guess you didn't notice the emoLaugh at the end......... emoScratch

 

[Possum]

Bprice - 5/28/2010 11:06 AM

Possum - 5/28/2010 9:55 AM Am I getting this right. So, the same folks on here screaming less government, less regulation, are now on here a month later singing a different tune. Funny how people don't want government until it is convienent to them.

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Captain Twist is at it again!  I think folks are asking for the government in place to DO THEIR JOB.  Not asking for more government.</p>

So are you saying regulate, or government interfere with business? Is that government doing their job? Why is my tax dollars going to clean up something BP did? These are the questions Republicans usually ask. Unless we are going to war of course, can wrap a flag around that and sell it.

 

[beetlespin]

This spill is not the governments fault!! Its BP's fault. BP should pay for it as well.

 

[EricM]

beetlespin - 5/28/2010 3:12 PM

This spill is not the governments fault!! Its BP's fault. BP should pay for it as well.

Agreed!!!! It's their responsibility.

The problem I have with all of this is that there was an accident and now a lot of folks want to stop offshore drilling. How about we learn from it and improve equipment and safety standards rather than scream "stop". Using this logic, after the Exxon shipping oil spill there would be no more oil brought in, after an airline accident we would stop using airplanes, because of a car accident we would have no more cars, there would be no bridges, dams, roads, nuke plants, bass boats, or even houses. I just think we could all use some moderation in discussing things like this rather than just blame one political party or another for having "allowed" the bridge to be built, the car to be manufactured, or the houses to exist.