First Post From Aqua Services, Inc., The Aquatic Herbicide Application Company

[troy goldsby]

Spurhunter,

Thanks for your honest questions and the opportunity to present the facts is why I blogged.

Troy

 

[troy goldsby]

Gobigorange,

I can provide those or the Tennessee dept. Of environment and conservation field office in Chattanooga.

Troy

 

[GAfisherman]

I disagree with it but like others said if it is going to happen then at least ita is by you who will keep us updated. Thanks for comming on here and at least telling us what is going on. This is what makes this forum so great ,although we all have differing opinions we all can talk about them and have discussions.

 

[troy goldsby]

Ranger 361,

Roseberry was impacted, the entire creek. I don't know who you have spoken with, but all of the vegetation was not killed, only exotics, hydrilla and milfoil. The fishing improved because it is now fishable, and full of native aquatic vegetation. Go have a look yourself instead of listening to rumors. The fishermen I know in the area are pleased.

The limits in Tennessee were set by TDEC. And no, if vegetation isn't growing 100' feet past the docks it is not treated. We only treat actively growing vegetation.

If you would like for ms to call you I will be happy to, just let me know that is really what you want.

Troy

 

[troy goldsby]

Gafisherman,

You are incorrect about Roseberry, I know it well. It can actually be fished now because of all of the native vegetation that is present and the exotics not completely choking the creek. But, that is a typical opinion from someone that doesn't live in or know the area. I am still stating facts.

Thanks for your last post, and I'll look for future posts from you.

Troy

 

[GAfisherman]

I am familar with the areas and know that everyone I talk to feels the same way. What facts are you basing it off of since you dont fish.

 

[ranger 361]

i don t care if you call me or not. you made the comment about people hiding on here. as for rumors these guys actually fished there. one has a camper in jackson county park. another question is how close to the surface does it have to be to be treated? say you find grass in 15' of water but it is not going to top out. does it get treated? i understood that if it is not all the way out to the 100' boundary. casey hitchcock & 423-243-6203

 

[troy goldsby]

Gafisherman,

Facts, lots of native vegetation, which is much better for our fisheries, local fishermen, homeowners, and local recreational boaters.

Troy

 

[troy goldsby]

Ranger 361,

We typically don't find these species, in this area, growing that deep. However, if hydrilla or milfoil grows at those depths they will top out. And yes, if that is within 100' of a fixed structure, and we are asked to control the vegetation at that fixed structure, we will. You will always hear two sides of every event, however, my side is based in fact, not a predisposed attitude that is opposed to all aquatic vegetation control. I know what the permanent residents and fishermen tell us, and what the native vegetation growth proves. Once again, study Spring Creek on Lake Seminole for a similar comparison. The facts are there.

Troy

 

[derek81]

troy goldsby - 7/5/2011 1:23 PM

Ranger 361,

We typically don't find these species, in this area, growing that deep. However, if hydrilla or milfoil grows at those depths they will top out. And yes, if that is within 100' of a fixed structure, and we are asked to control the vegetation at that fixed structure, we will. You will always hear two sides of every event, however, my side is based in fact, not a predisposed attitude that is opposed to all aquatic vegetation control. I know what the permanent residents and fishermen tell us, and what the native vegetation growth proves. Once again, study Spring Creek on Lake Seminole for a similar comparison. The facts are there.

Troy

I don't think the concern is much about vegetation control as it is putting toxins in our water, not sure why that can't be understood by anyone on your side of the fence....where will you be in 10 years when they actually put some testing behind these products and determine they are harmful, will you still be in the same position you are now telling how it doesn't hurt anything? Do you have children? I do and in the summer when it's hot my boys will jump off the boat and swim while i fish, now that there is poison spread here and there through out the lake i do not feel comfortable letting them, could care less about the fish, home owners or the grass, my concern is that my two boys swam in chester frost two weeks ago and now i'm worried about what the heck they were swimming in. If you are so sure of how harmless this stuff is will you let your children swim in water this stuff was just sprayed into? Honestly? and my name is Derek McCullough and if you are interested in speaking with me drop me a PM and i'll be glad to give you my cell#.

 

[jim4596]

Here's an example of what i am talking about...
Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma Linked to Herbicides in Two New Studies
http://www.pesticide.org/the-buzz/non-hodgkin-lymphoma-linked-to-herbicides-in-two-new-studies

 

[AirrusBoy]

Here is a great idea. If it is so safe, then let Billy film you treating an area, then take pictures of you and your three year old daughter out for a swim immediately afterwards in the treated water.

Sweet...Bill Dance would sell out for a dollar would he not? No wonder the sport of Pro Fishing lost all respect for the money grubber.

BTW, is it true that the landowners join some type of consortium in an effort to dodge the effective distribution of permits? Notice I said landowners, not water owners. You formed an association to help the owners do two things:
1. Avoid having to buy the proper permits, therefore effectively avoiding a usage tax to spray water that is not the property of the homeowner. and
2. Pad you pockets

If I were you, I would definitely subscribe to TowBoats US. I doubt any educated fisherman with a lick of knowledge would help tow you in. As a marine biologist myself, we have those who wish to help the environment, and those who wish to screw people out of every nickel they can. Take a guess where we are with this?

 

[troy goldsby]

Airrusboy and the past few,

This is just getting to redundant and I have a job to do. I will answer direct questions but I am done with the rumors and accusations that are continually hurled this way.

Yes, I would take my kids swimming in the waters I treat.

Airrusboy -- sounds like you are a bit jealous of folks that have done really well in their chosen professions. If all you can accomplish is slandering someone, save it for someone who will cry with you. Also, I would say any type of biologist that doesn't recognize the importance and necessity of herbicides needs to take a few more classes.

To all -- thanks for your participation and will check for future, legitimate questions. If anyone needs to speak with ms I can be reached at 256-572-4464 or [email protected].

See y'all on the water and hopefully some productive meetings that are coming soon.

Troy

 

[derek81]

troy goldsby - 7/5/2011 4:41 PM

Airrusboy and the past few,

This is just getting to redundant and I have a job to do. I will answer direct questions but I am done with the rumors and accusations that are continually hurled this way.

Yes, I would take my kids swimming in the waters I treat.

Airrusboy -- sounds like you are a bit jealous of folks that have done really well in their chosen professions. If all you can accomplish is slandering someone, save it for someone who will cry with you. Also, I would say any type of biologist that doesn't recognize the importance and necessity of herbicides needs to take a few more classes.

To all -- thanks for your participation and will check for future, legitimate questions. If anyone needs to speak with ms I can be reached at 256-572-4464 or [email protected].

See y'all on the water and hopefully some productive meetings that are coming soon.

Troy

Did you back yourself in a corner? I didn't accuse you of anything, simply made a statement and asked a few questions......

 

[troy goldsby]

Derek81,

No corner, just posted enough info that if it doesn't sink in there is nothing else to say. Unless a question needs answered. I have a job to do, can't take anymore time giving facts to those who don't want them.

Troy

 

[DaytonBoatDock]

This may have been asked but I have read everything from post one till now and don't remember seeing it. Who is paying for the spraying of the public usage areas such as the boat ramps and docks around them? TVA cries that they are broke constantly so I was wondering if it was them.

 

[jim4596]

Well troy called me and I appreciate his effort but at the end of the day we agree to disagree. Myself and the dictionary defines the word poison as "a substance that causes disturbances to organisms by chemical reaction or other activty on the molecular level causing harm." Troy believes that as long as the poison is diluted that its ok. I disagree and believe that poison is poison. So we talked about it. And we will agree to disagree. So I am done with this. I don't think its necessary to dump poisons in our lake and troy thinks its necessary.

 

[rodbuilder2]

I have to agree with you Jim Poison is Poison no Matter How You Use It

 

[SKIDROW37]

I was at HBSP this wknd and found several small bluegill (approx. 3 in.) dead. I picked up some of them and they seemed perfectly healthy no injuries what so ever. Is the Herbacide dangerous for the smaller bait fish? I know you say that it's a HERBacide and only effects the aquatic plants but these fish didn't just up and die for no reason. emoScratch

 

[billyc]

Awww, Troy. Are you taking your toys and going home?? Poor guy. Why don't you take those damn spray boats with you and the poor sorry put upon homeowners. My wife was living in Camp LeJeune when the government thought it would be a good idea to dump chemicals in their water supply. Needless to say, the repurcussions ain't great. As for my rights as a fisherman? I guess they don't count. That's alright. It's all good. I'll keep fishing these waters. I am just wondering where the permission slip is that I need to sign? Do you have it in your pocket with the rest of that money you been lining them with? I wonder if all that money the FLW tour just brought to town counts? Cause I promise you they ain't coming back if the fishery goes down.

Jim is right. Poison is poison no matter what pretty name you put on it. And anything that has the ability to eliminate vegetation does in fact have the ability to be harmful.

Seems like you got tired of being brought to the table, so you quit. It's fine. We all know the truth. And, the sad part is...you do too.

And oh, yeah. The property assessors office said you were full of s--t. The rate is the same for everyone. They said they didn't know about any landowners association around the water front. It didn't matter to them. Maybe you are the one who is hiding.

Now, I run the Monday night dogfight tournament at Chester Frost ( you know the place, right? You have been dumping your poison there, so I am sure you have it locked in to your GPS). It starts at 6:15 but I am usually there at 5 or so. Please feel free to come peddle your story there any old time you want.

Now...Don't go away mad. Just go away.